Why "message has been deleted"?

Hi there,

I tried to replied 3 times to the OP at https://groups.google.com/g/awx-project/c/SiGsMKMrchY and my message got deleted 3 times as a result (cf capture below).

Does someone know what happened? I find this very intrusive. Is the message in moderation?

As a sidenote, is there a reason this list is a Google Group and not a traditional mailing list hosted at Redhat? I think this would prevent such automated deletion issues.

Thanks for your feedback,

Vincent Rubiolo

https://support.google.com/groups/thread/78366109/new-conversation-message-has-been-deleted?hl=en

There are a number of other folks that have reported similar behavior over the past year or two. Perhaps you’re encountering a bug of some kind? Unfortunately, I don’t see a resolution in this particular support thread. I don’t think your posts are being deleted by a moderator or anything like that.

Thanks for the feedback. I had noted the support threads in other groups about that too but was not sure this was the same thing.

I had pointed at source code in the AWX repo and the Automation Controller doc in my reply, I can’t think the antispam crawlers mistook that for spam.

I think this might be related to antispam but since there is no way to know, this is very frustrating.

Were you involved/have insight into the creation of the list/group? Any reason a Google Group was chosen instead of the normal Redhat/Fedora mailing lists?

This is the exact same problem which mandated me to create a Google account for just this list: when subscribing to the AWX group w/ my normal email address (and not a Google account), despite subscription success messages, my emails to the group never went through (albeit without any information or error whatsoever). Again, extremely frustrating (whereas the list is a very useful support channel) :frowning:

Vincent

I wasn’t a part of the initial conversations around an AWX Google Group but my understanding is that Ansible was using Google Groups before being acquired by Red Hat. The decision to use this platform rather than another may have just been for continuity between the two projects. Again, I wasn’t a part of those conversations so these are just my best guesses.

Hi there,

Thanks for the additional feedback. The existence of Google Groups at Ansible would make sense indeed.

I would advocate to move to a normal mailing list instead as this would, to my understanding:

  1. simplify external subscriptions/contributors
  2. avoid issues w/ automated, unexpected deletions
  3. emphasis the open source nature of the project.

Of course, I am not the admin of the project or anything so I can’t decide unless there is a strong community push for it.

Vincent