# nova\_fip vs quantum\_floatingip **URL:** \ **Category:** Ansible Developer\ **Created:** [March 14, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771 "2014-03-14T07:43:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Koert_van_der_Veer1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/1 "2014-03-14T07:43:16Z")
I noticed there's now duplicate openstack floatingip support, both in nova\_fip and quantum\_floatingip+quantum\_floatingip\_associate. Is this duplication intentional? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_DeHaan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Michael\_DeHaan1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Michael_DeHaan1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/2 "2014-03-14T14:28:11Z")
This was the result of a recent OpenStack merge and on the development branch. I think it’s a question are people using floating IPs without going through Quantum anymore. I’m a little out of the loop with respect to that, but about a year ago not everyone was using Quantum. Not sure of the current status quo. ---
**Author:** ![Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Koert_van_der_Veer1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/3 "2014-03-14T18:34:57Z")
> This was the result of a recent OpenStack merge and on the development > branch. > > I think it's a question are people using floating IPs without going > through Quantum anymore. That question isn't quite relevant I think. Quantum is a fork of nova-network; and is essentially a rename of the daemon, along with a relocation of the git-repo. The client API hasn't changed fundametally. The nova-network client can still create and manage floating IPs with quantum (and even neutron). As far as i can see, the only diffrence between nova\_fip and quantum\_floatingip\* is the set of client library dependencies, and the presence of quirks in quantum\_floatingip. I already addressed those quirks on my openstack-module fork. > I'm a little out of the loop with respect to that, but about a year > ago not everyone was using Quantum. Not sure of the current status quo. Keeping track of what OpenStack is doing isn't easy. Especially when you're just using clients, as most of the chatter pertains to the services. Is there a maintainer for the openstack modules? If not, is there a demand for such a position? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_DeHaan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Michael\_DeHaan1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Michael_DeHaan1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/4 "2014-03-14T19:19:24Z")
" Quantum is a fork of nova-network; " At the time when I was involved with Folsom, long time ago I was using both. That was clearly a long time ago. As for the “maintainer” thing, if someone would like to step up, I would welcome it – it’s always going to be a community thing but if there are folks who can step up to be the first to say “yay” or “nay” or “I want this”, or “I’ll fix this up”, that is SUPER welcome. We will also owe you a statue when we build our formal gardens\* Matt Martz has been doing amazing things for Rackspace Cloud, in particular. - = as some people know, this takes a while and there are various statues promised already ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_DeHaan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Michael\_DeHaan1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Michael_DeHaan1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/5 "2014-03-14T19:19:48Z")
“I was using both” =\> “people were still using both”. So, anyone object to removal of nova\_fip ? ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Keating](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3bc359/32.png) [@Jesse\_Keating](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Jesse_Keating)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/6 "2014-03-14T19:36:04Z")
To make things even more complicated, "quantum" is going away, in place of "neutron". (Tradmark issues was part of this I believe) Neutron isn't ready for prime time yet though, so that makes things... complicated. -jlk ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_DeHaan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Michael\_DeHaan1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Michael_DeHaan1)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/7 "2014-03-14T21:35:15Z")
Yep, I’m aware of the quantum going away part. We have been resisting doing a rename as that would break playbooks, though the thought was to have the module work with both and import what it could do “do the right thing”. –Michael ---
**Author:** ![Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Koert_van_der_Veer1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/8 "2014-03-16T15:30:14Z")
The entire nova-network vs quantum vs neutron debate is irrelevant in this context: we're building a client, and all three services speak (compatible versions of) the same protocol. The only thing that's relevant for us, is how to name the modules. If I could start over, I'd choose for 'openstack\_[objectname]', to avoid openstack's (slightly whimsical) daemon naming habits. For now, I'd prefer to keep things consistent, e.g. vm-stuff in nova\_\*, network stuff in quantum\_\*, volume stuff in cinder\_\*. ---
**Author:** ![Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@Koert\_van\_der\_Veer1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Koert_van_der_Veer1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/9 "2014-03-16T15:33:14Z")
I'll try to pick up openstack requests, and chime in on openstack related topics. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_DeHaan1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Michael\_DeHaan1](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Michael_DeHaan1)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/nova-fip-vs-quantum-floatingip/14771/10 "2014-03-16T16:25:44Z")
Ok, so it sounds like we’ll delete the nova\_fip merge. Speak up if you disagree, anyone.