# Header vs footer (and content) **URL:** \ **Category:** Forum Guide & Feedback\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140 "2023-08-16T12:06:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/1 "2023-08-16T12:06:10Z")
Right now, we have a _very_ minimal header for extra links to things: ![2023-08-16-125823_244x51_scrot](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/7cec8aaac07d140f8c69ff3da2b2f59313f8bd33.png) I **do not like** ☹ - but the alternatives are not better, at least not for the header. However, CDCK are happy to copy the footer from Fedora: ![2023-08-16-125638_804x129_scrot](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/80744d8408c9c1a3e5ec18d7f09d2c4da0a2b7df.png) This seems better. I think we should remove the 2 header links, and have a footer instead. As for the content, I’m thinking: - The standard [Ansible wordmark](https://www.ansible.com/hubfs/2016_Images/Assets/Ansible-Wordmark-Large-RGB-Black.png?hsLang=en-us) - Text: “Radically simple IT automation” (copied from PyPi, until we update the mission statement) - Links: - Get Ansible | [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) - Ansible Documentation : [docs.ansible.com](http://docs.ansible.com) - Chat with us on Matrix | [https://matrix.to/#/#social:ansible.com](https://matrix.to/#/#social:ansible.com) - Code of Conduct | [Community Code of Conduct — Ansible Community Documentation](https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/community/code_of_conduct.html) - Privay Policy | [Privacy - Ansible](http://forum.ansible.com/privacy) Thoughts? more links? ---
**Author:** ![gotmax23](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gotmax23/32/106_2.png) [@gotmax23](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gotmax23)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/2 "2023-08-17T04:57:28Z")
FWIW, the current links don’t really look right on mobile. The top logo, `Ansible`, and `Chat` are a bit squished together. I think a footer is indeed a better choice. ---
**Author:** ![cybette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/cybette/32/16_2.png) [@cybette](https://forum.ansible.com/u/cybette)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/3 "2023-08-17T09:56:57Z")
Do we want to keep the link to Chat/Matrix (in the footer)? ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 9:58am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/4 "2023-08-17T09:58:31Z")
I’m torn on that @cybette - part of me says yes link-all-the-things; part of me thinks that Spaces still aren’t perfect and people will find the Matrix rooms as they get involved in a given project. Happy to go with what others think ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/5 "2023-08-17T10:14:30Z")
> [@gwmngilfen](#): > > - The standard [Ansible wordmark](https://www.ansible.com/hubfs/2016_Images/Assets/Ansible-Wordmark-Large-RGB-Black.png?hsLang=en-us) CDCK would prefer a neutral logo that works for both dark & light themes. So should we go with the usual Pool Logo: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/3bf964d35f0acbccb128cea72f47401d4d33f0d5.png) Or do we ask them to do two images (which, grudgingly, I think they will): ![light](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/60636f7ef549af2a15b816bb2ebe39824445cc41.png) ![dark](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/4d18a3dce6c5e1886360396aeb132b42a752b94e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/leo/32/23_2.png) [@Leo](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/6 "2023-08-17T14:58:11Z")
> [@gwmngilfen](#): > > This seems better. I think we should remove the 2 header links, and have a footer instead. As for the content, I’m thinking: I think having a quick way in the top to go back to the home page is important. A lot of forums miss that part and people end fighting the interface to return to the site. I don’t like the current setup, but I definitly think we need something that makes it easy to go to [Homepage | Ansible Collaborative](http://ansible.com/community) (and [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) in the future) up there. I do agree on the footer (which can be extended), but I still think we need a top nav. Elastic is using icons instead of words, which is not great either, but does look better: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/original/1X/865f08f1a4583c0724c084381dc229631fc954af.png) > [@gwmngilfen](#): > > I’m torn on that @cybette - part of me says yes link-all-the-things; part of me thinks that Spaces still aren’t perfect and people will find the Matrix rooms as they get involved in a given project. Happy to go with what others think I would point to the social room, and we can direct them from there. Most (new) people seem confused about the “spaces” concept. ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/7 "2023-08-17T16:05:01Z")
> [@Leo](#): > > I think having a quick way in the top to go back to the home page is important. A lot of forums miss that part and people end fighting the interface to return to the site. So currently we’re using [Custom Header Links](https://meta.discourse.org/t/custom-header-links/90588) which only supports text links. I also tried [Brand Header](https://meta.discourse.org/t/brand-header/77977) but that adds a bar _above_ the existing header which felt awful, tbh. [Custom Header Links (icons)](https://meta.discourse.org/t/custom-header-links-icons/86307) might be OK? it’s icons **only** which is fine if you just want to put a 🏠 linking back to the website, but it’s not super obvious/intuitive. > [@Leo](#): > > I would point to the social room, and we can direct them from there. Most (new) people seem confused about the “spaces” concept. Sounds fair, updated the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/leo/32/23_2.png) [@Leo](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/8 "2023-08-17T16:07:08Z")
> [@gwmngilfen](#): > > [Custom Header Links (icons)](https://meta.discourse.org/t/custom-header-links-icons/86307) might be OK? it’s icons **only** which is fine if you just want to put a 🏠 linking back to the website, but it’s not super obvious/intuitive. This seems the best compromise to at least have something. My +1 for that. ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/9 "2023-08-17T16:14:52Z")
I’ve replaced the header links with the icon for home. Looks good to me, even on mobile. ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/leo/32/23_2.png) [@Leo](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/10 "2023-08-17T16:16:02Z")
I see it ok, but it’s linking to the forum itself instead of [Ansible Community | Ansible.com](http://ansible.com/community) ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/11 "2023-08-17T16:42:35Z")
> [@Leo](#): > > I think having a quick way in the top to go back to the home page is important I interpreted “go back” here as to the forum root. But of course, the :ansible_pool_mark: does that… should it be [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) though? ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/leo/32/23_2.png) [@Leo](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/12 "2023-08-17T17:05:21Z")
> [@gwmngilfen](#): > > I interpreted “go back” here as to the forum root. But of course, the :ansible_pool_mark: does that… should it be [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) though? My thought was /community because this is the community forum, with a tooltip that reads “Ansible Community Home”. Are we getting a link to the forum from [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) homepage? if we are, then it’s ok to have it go there. ---
**Author:** ![cybette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/cybette/32/16_2.png) [@cybette](https://forum.ansible.com/u/cybette)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/13 "2023-08-18T08:05:09Z")
> [@Leo](#): > > Are we getting a link to the forum from [ansible.com](http://ansible.com) homepage? if we are, then it’s ok to have it go there. We’ll be getting a link from the [community page](http://ansible.com/community), so I think it makes sense to have it link back there instead of [ansible.com](http://ansible.com), at least for the time being. ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/14 "2023-08-18T09:38:40Z")
> [@cybette](#): > > I think it makes sense to have it link back there instead of [ansible.com](http://ansible.com), at least for the time being. It is easy to change. So I changed it. We can always change it again 😛 ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/15 "2023-08-21T08:42:40Z")
I need a decision on the logo - does anyone have an issue with using :ansible_pool_mark: for simplicity? [@CommunityTeam](https://forum.ansible.com/groups/communityteam) ---
**Author:** ![oranod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/oranod/32/1434_2.png) [@oranod](https://forum.ansible.com/u/oranod)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/16 "2023-08-21T09:26:39Z")
No issue from me. +1 to the pool logo. ---
**Author:** ![samccann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/samccann/32/18_2.png) [@samccann](https://forum.ansible.com/u/samccann)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/17 "2023-08-21T15:27:56Z")
The logo is fine. I like that it returns to the forum. Very convenient. ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/18 "2023-08-22T08:51:03Z")
Footer is in place, head to [Categories](https://forum.ansible.com/categories) or some other page without infinite scroll to see it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/leo/32/23_2.png) [@Leo](https://forum.ansible.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/19 "2023-08-22T19:29:40Z")
> [@gwmngilfen](#): > > I need a decision on the logo - does anyone have an issue with using :ansible_pool_mark: for simplicity? [@CommunityTeam](https://forum.ansible.com/groups/communityteam) I like it, Single color simplifies it. It looks a bit smaller than before or maybe that’s just me, but looking good! > [@gwmngilfen](#): > > Footer is in place, head to [Categories](https://forum.ansible.com/categories) or some other page without infinite scroll to see it 🙂 🥳 woohooo! Looking at Fedora, maybe we can use the logo mark AND the wordmark like them? That might look better and will help people to associate both marks And for the text, go with “Automation powered by community” like in [Homepage | Ansible Collaborative](http://ansible.com/community), instead of the “radically simple…” to keep it consistent and community centred? We haven’t gotten back to the mission and all that, but for this particular case feels better. ---
**Author:** ![gwmngilfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/ansible/user_avatar/forum.ansible.com/gwmngilfen/32/6_2.png) [@gwmngilfen](https://forum.ansible.com/u/gwmngilfen)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140/20 "2023-08-23T08:38:22Z")
@cybette can we combine the logos that way? The wordmarks would need two images for light & dark themes, which CDCK were hesitant about. I can ask, but it might be a while. Text I can update. [Next page](https://forum.ansible.com/t/header-vs-footer-and-content/140.md?page=2)